You're not the only one to blame, but how
could you do this to the Italian Republic, Silvio?
You've Bunga'd the whole thing. Now there's no
government.
you've driven the country to the edge of the precipice:
[williambanzai7- one more bunga and over it goes]
you've changed the culture from one of beauty to one of felatio,
where a 17 year-old Moroccan hooker can be Queen and
the King is an acknowledged rug-muncher, with
another rug, on his head:
[williambanzai7]
I've been following the Movimento 5 (cinqe) Stelle (M5S),
the 5-star movement, for a while now, with my broken
Italian. Beppe Grillo, the "leader", is not just a comedian.
He knows enough about economic theory, and his oratory
reminds me of
George Carlin, the Angel of the Middle Classes
so, you know that his heart's in the right place. That he
sees the Italian Republic's politics as a farce and treats
it as a farce, is to his credit. He will agree to laws on a piecemeal
basis, which is more like democracy than the deal that
most politicians willingly sign with the devil, agreeing
to support Party, over Country.
sees the Italian Republic's politics as a farce and treats
it as a farce, is to his credit. He will agree to laws on a piecemeal
basis, which is more like democracy than the deal that
most politicians willingly sign with the devil, agreeing
to support Party, over Country.
Beppe's the most sane voice around:
[williambanzai7]Sh-TING: The Observer
Beppe
Grillo is a wise clown saving Italy with satire, says Dario Fo
The
playwright tells Tom Kington in Rome that the comedian, who finds himself
kingmaker of the Italian government, is taking his cues from medieval comics
who bedevilled the powerful
Tom
Kington
Saturday 2 March 2013 12.37 GMT
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Dario
Fo and Beppe Grillo at their campaign rally on 19 February 2013.
What
makes Beppe Grillo tick? After a quarter of Italians voted for his brand of
populist insurgency in last week's general election, it is a question
preoccupying the country's political class and much of the eurozone. According
to Italy's most distinguished playwright and prominent Grillo supporter, the
answer is simple.
"Grillo
is like a character in one of my plays," says Dario Fo, whose satires on
medieval and modern life have seen him handed
a Nobel prize and hounded off Italian stages in a career that has covered 50
years. "He is from that school of medieval
minstrels who played with paradox and the absurd," adds Fo.
Fo, 86, is best known for his
play Accidental Death of an Anarchist, inspired by the death of a man in police
custody in 1969,
and has long been a leftwing hero in Italy. He publicly backed Grillo this
year, co-writing a book on the comedian's fledgling political movement and
giving him a ringing endorsement at a packed rally in Milan's Piazza Duomo days
before the election.
In
return, Grillo, 64, suggested that Fo be
nominated as the next president of Italy, an offer that the playwright
turned down.
The
high-profile backing contributed to a campaign that achieved an astonishing
momentum. As a result of the 8.7 million votes Grillo received, his movement is
now the biggest single party in the
chamber of deputies, which makes him a kingmaker in a hung parliament.
After
building a cult following through his blog, which denounced the austerity drive
of the former prime minister, Mario Monti, and dubbed ex-president Silvio
Berlusconi "a saliva salesman"
and "the psycho-dwarf",
Grillo's breakthrough before the election came when middle-class professionals started to see him as the best way to
express their alienation from Italy's self-perpetuating political class.
Experts
and analysts have been drumming up ideas about new political paradigms in Italy
ever since. Journalists mobbed Grillo all last week for clues as to what comes
next. His only response so far has been to
refuse an offer from Italy's centre-left Democratic party to work together in
parliament, using characteristically earthy language to describe the
party's leader Pier Luigi Bersani as an "arse face". On Saturday he said he would accept a centre-left alliance with Berlusconi,
only to add "they will never do it."
For
Fo, the key to understanding Grillo is not in 21st-century Italy but in the
13th century, when storytellers – giullari
– roamed Italy, entertaining crowds in piazzas with lewd tales interwoven with
satirical attacks on local potentates. "In English the equivalent word is
'juggler', but in Italy they juggled
with words, irony and sarcasm," says Fo, who has attended Grillo's
shows for years.
Grillo
rose to fame mixing comedy routines with
references to political scandals in the towns he was playing in, a straight
lift from his medieval peers. "He is from the tradition of the wise storyteller, one who knows how to use
surreal fantasy, who can turn situations around, who has the right word for
the right moment, who can transfix people when he speaks, even in the rain and
the snow," explains Fo.
At
one rain-soaked pre-election rally in Viterbo, in Lazio, central Italy, Grillo
yelled: "Put down your umbrellas, I
want to look you in the face." The crowd duly obeyed the comedian's demand.
Even
the internet-based forums where
Grillo's followers argue over policy have their roots in the Middle Ages, argues Fo. He says:
"We had extremely democratic town
councils in medieval Italy which knew the value of working together and
every now and then, down the centuries, this spirit returns."
Grillo's
focus on the web followed his ejection
from Italian state TV in the 1980s after he made fun of corrupt Italian Socialist politicians, a few years before
many of them were rounded up during Italy's Clean Hands probe.
His
TV ban was part of a proud tradition, says Fo. "Nothing has changed since
the Emperor Frederick II issued a decree
in the 13th century against giullari who criticised power."
Fo himself was thrown off
state TV in 1951
after he adapted biblical tales as
political satire, the start of a series of run-ins with Italy's fascists, communists and the Vatican as his radical
theatre group challenged taboos.
By
2004, Fo was being sued by an associate of Berlusconi after he staged a satire
that poked fun at Berlusconi's small stature. "Every time you touch those who have power over the media, they seek to
stop you," he says.
As a
young man in Milan during the second world war, Fo helped his father – a resistance fighter – smuggle escaped British
prisoners of war into Switzerland and his memories flooded back when he was invited on stage
by Grillo at the Milan rally.
"The end of the war was the last time I saw
that piazza filled with the same joy, with people changing their way of
thinking about politics," he says.
Fo
draws a parallel between Grillo's Five Star Movement's attack on Italy's
privileged political class and the activists
he worked with in the late 1960s. "Back then, people were also
realising the importance of culture, of schools, and a generation of Italian
singer-songwriters were giving voice to that."
The
difference is that those artists never
held the balance of power in Italy as Grillo does, with 162 deputies and
senators under his movement's control in parliament. Now, after his election
triumph, Grillo faces the challenges of real politics.
The
first came last week when thousands of supporters urged him to form a
functioning government with the centre-left leader, Bersani, who needs his
backing in the senate to reach a majority.
"It
is not easy, the Democratic party
treated Grillo with disrespect, called him a fascist, a buffoon, but now
they are offering their hand," says Fo, who is actively encouraging Grillo
to negotiate, meaning that a playwright
and a comic were making Italy's political headlines at the end of the week.
In Sicily, where the Democratic party runs
the regional council but Grillo's movement is the biggest party, the two have
formed a cagey alliance. "This
is the model, it is working," explains Fo.
The
real trap for Grillo, warns Fo, is being beguiled by flattery. Turning again to
history, he cites Cola Di Rienzo, the
charismatic son of a tavern owner in the 14th century who wooed Romans with his
oratory and became the city's leader, setting his sights high and ousting
corrupt noble families, only to see his support slip away before he was
murdered by a mob as he sought to flee in disguise. "I have seen the
glowing press for Grillo and he must be careful not to fall for the adulation,
it's a honey-like trap."