Sunday, 27 January 2013

Guns, tyranny, Alex & Piers

One of the more interesting cross-over events
(between the MSM & the real-news Internet)
was the interview of Alex Jones by Piers
(cofff- Moron) Morgan.

Alex Jones has led the cry for Piers to be
deported because Piers is a scumbag
pawn of the rich and guilty of phone
tapping, by his own admission. The
fact that he doesn't go to prison is
proof enough for me that he's got
some power-brokers hiding up his quiff.

The point of the conflagration was always guns.
Piers took THIS opportunity, with the
massacre of school kids to play the
grand philosopher and say that guns should
be banned. Unfortunately for Piers, Alex Jones
knows that Piers is a hypocrite (quelle surprise)
in that during wars, Piers helps his political
masters by banging the war drums.
So, Alex says "governments with guns killing
innocent people vs private guns for protection from
tyranny. Piers is a threat" A bit far, but not wholly

Digression: Piers also helped turn the tables
on  Greg Palast (a GREAT investigative journalist)
because Greg caught Labour, in 1997,
well...being Blairite, accepting handouts
from big US companies, for favours. He did
this with a false story that he concocted, and
he was caught red-handed, again.
I'll get the story later.

So, Piers knew that he could get Alex to
blow up on his show, and Alex took his
one chance at the big time and became
incandescent. The key issue was gun

Piers knows that US gun-lovers look scary
to the rest of the world, so he hoped
to gain some popularity by showing
the world what a gun-lover looks like
and acts like.

However, they both walked away looking
better, to their own audiences. I have to say
I agree with the Jones supporters that
Alex had but one chance on the corrupt
CNN channel, with the corrupt Piers
to make a stand. So, good. I can't
condone guns, but I don't live in the US,
and I know that once you say
"the criminals got lots of them,
so should I", it's hard to argue for the
Jesus method, of taking your lead
and turning the other cheek.

I personally find Alex bombastic. He keeps
important stories going when others get
bored, but his style is so over the top that
it makes his good ideas seem wasted, because
they burn out in a rage, and nothing
changes when you rage. I wonder if he's
been put where he is, but he needs to know
his methods (not his message) are in
need of change. He also says
conspiracy A,B,C without proof, like
everybody knows. I hate that. Show me
proof. I don't think that conspiracies are
an issue, because either way, we're being
screwed systematically. You wanna
sit in a chair and say "it's a conspiracy"
so that it absolves you from having to act?
Well, that would make you an idiot.
I got no time for conspiracy idiots.

I can see how government gun-control
can be seen as tyranny, when the
government is as corrupt and all-seeing
as the present one is.
However, the tyranny goes much
further than that. But, most Americans
only see gun control as a tyranny.
Their whole legal system has been
turned upside down, and they don't
seem to care.

Bankers can deal with mafia and drug dealers.
but, if somebody refuses to answer the
police, they can't "take the 5th" and
shut up, because they'll get tasered.

Banks are stealing homes from people
who don't owe them money!
the 2008 crash was the result of lax laws,
but included lots of crime, and the rap
sheet gets longer by the day.
Corzine is still walking free. Theft of
a billion, taken from the victim class, it must
be said.

I wish I had time to comment on the text below
and the letters I added, but life is a bit
wild , these days.
Suffice it to say, each bit has something
to add to the complex story.

checkitout:LIBerty BLITZ

Google Trends: “Democide” Goes Parabolic
Posted on January 8, 2013
No matter what you think of Alex Jones and his performance with Piers Morgan on CNN last night, the most important point is that he was invited on the show to begin with.  This is just further proof that the dinosaur mainstream media channels are dying and are being forced to invite alternative media personalities on their shows to increase ratings.  The alternative media is becoming the media.
Meanwhile, Alex told viewers while on air to google “democide” and you can see the results below. According to Wikipedia: “Democide is a term revived and redefined by the political scientist R. J. Rummel as the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder. In the 20th century, democide passed war as the leading cause of non-natural death (according to Rummel).”
In Liberty,

    Hap (@hap317) on January 8, 2013 at 3:03 pm said:
    I must confess I am rather disappointed with Alex. He was given a wonderful opportunity to blow the doors of people’s minds with facts and logic and possibly awaken a few people. Instead, he ranted and raved and shouted and screamed and essentially made himself look exactly like the Establishment wants him to: a psych-ward patient filled with ‘crazy ideas’ desperately in need of more medication. He gave Morgan all the power, who remained docile and calm, while hollering and jumping off topic frequently. This was a major opportunity for him and many in the alternative media out there gaining access to the mainstream. He may have actually done more harm than good. As a trader, I do not rely upon hope or prayers for what I see in front of me, but I really had a lot of hope for his chance to awaken many out there to the realities of what is going on in America. All he did was confirm to the TV-drones that tune into that twit Morgan, is that these things ‘cannot be possibly happening.’ His behavior caused the show to change its format and he ruined the chance to have a debate between himself and Dershowitz and Morgan. So, that opened the door for them to verbally assault his lunacy in a calm and collected manner. Just what the Sheeple want to hear. “Everything is fine. Do not pay attention to the wild man waving his arms and shouting and bellowing insane ideas. Your government is here to help you. Do not be afraid.”
    We need more level-headed members of this movement, like Mike to lead the charge to holding civil, rational, well-intended debates with Pro-Establishment cronies like Morgan. Not shouting matches filled with inconsistent dialogue and rabid behavior.
          Lore on January 8, 2013 at 9:29 pm said:
        Hap, you nailed it. Alex came across as a nutcase on the verge of staging his own shooting incident.
        Mojo on January 9, 2013 at 8:40 am said:
        After the way Piers treated Larry Pratt, I don’t blame Alex for not giving them an inch. He knew he had a short amount of time to say as many thing as he could. As off the wall as he was, tons of people out there who had never heard of him, went straight to their computer and Googled the things he said.
        Do you guys really think that Piers Morgan and Alan Dershowitz would have allowed there to be any kind of real debate if Alex had kept his cool
        They would have continued spouting off their fake facts about guns and violence in our country, and asking worthless questions to make it look like they actually care about the children, and violence in our country.
        It may have been their intention to make him look like a kook, but when has Alex ever been calm? I used to think he was a kook, but I don’t anymore. I think he is mad as hell about what is happening about in our country, and he has the guts to say it, with no apologies.
        If you are not outraged, you are not paying attention. Get mad, grow a pair, and get something done. At least Alex is doing something.
               Kevin on January 9, 2013 at 3:48 pm said:
        Was Alex Jones put on that program to make 2nd Amendment backers look crazy? Who knows?
              Liberty on January 9, 2013 at 6:24 pm said:
        I disagree. Honest debate is not possible within CNN timeframe. The 3rd part would be equally split between three of them just for talking points. LOGIC cannot persuade neither socialist-progressives nor religious collectivists. They think with heart. Alex Jones did the correct thing – he did not let Morgan to go over the script. That is in itself a revolution considering Alex’s calm ending with British accent.
        gallopinglibertarian on January 8, 2013 at 3:35 pm said:
    What Alex Jones did was make the term Democide go viral. Google it like he said. Track it but most of all spread the word about with the weblinks below. It is our best argument against gun control by far.
    This is the largest database of Democide death/murder by government on the net after disarmament.262,000,000 million slaughtered by their own governments.6 times more murdered by their own governments than those killed in ALL THE WARS IN THE LAST CENTURY COMBINED. Think about for a minute. Are you going to turn in any weapon if they are banned? Anyone that says “Oh but that could never happen here, this is the USA” is historically unaware.
    Democide is the best argument against any kind of restrictions or gun bans of any kind in my opinion.
      Davidus Romanus on January 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm said:
    Agree that Alex missed an opportunity here. The facts are on our side. Alex made himself look like a crazy man. Ron Paul would never act like that no matter how bad a hit piece was. I’ll never forget his being asked how he could be a defender of the Constitution and also want to amend the constitution. His reply? Amending the Constitution IS Constitutional. No hysterics or arm waiving from Dr Paul. Just polite reasoning and a refusal to be drawn in to baloney arguments.
       River on January 8, 2013 at 9:06 pm said:
    A lot of people think Alex is a plant by TPTB and after seeing that I’m inclined to agree.
        Lucas on January 9, 2013 at 3:59 am said:
        The main reason I stopped listening to him, yes the “facts” he gives are logical and make sense but the format he provides them in and all the over the top shouting and mouth foaming are just too much to bare
    Menotyou on January 9, 2013 at 3:13 am said:
    Alex Jones is the Pied Piper of Extremism. He is a COINTELPRO agent designed to lead the ignorant, frustrated and disenfranchised up the proverbial garden path. Best case scenario; He may not be consciously aware he is playing into the very hands he supposedly despises. He is one of the planted/selected opposition detailed in the 12th Protocol of Zion regarding control of the press. They need Alex to vector his audience towards violent ends. They need an inarticulate, angry, dogmatic, irrational and emotionally charged individual as their fighting platform.
    Violence is precisely what the Government needs to further their agenda. They will respond with ever more violence and enact even more liberty stripping laws. All supported vehemently by the petrified zombie masses.
           Liberty on January 9, 2013 at 6:27 pm said:
        You need lithium, but lithium is controlled by elder of Zion. What an axiety you must have!
    Daniel McAmoil on January 9, 2013 at 4:05 am said:
    Word is,, Alex had a cup of coffee right before the show that was druged. Anyone knows Alex is a little wired anyway,, and how else better to push him and his view over the edge than a few tabs of speed in his coffee 20 minutes before the show..
           Stu on January 9, 2013 at 6:30 pm said:
        I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at your gullibility. I am losing my faith in humanity by the minute.
       Riley on January 9, 2013 at 5:14 am said:
    * feminized americans, just weak kneed dumbed down politically correct nitwits. Passion comes from suffering, from being lied to, abused and seeing the evil surrounding. Should Alex be a “politician” like R Paul or a citizen who is fed up with all the wars, false flags and life in nut house usa. Go Alex!
    john on January 9, 2013 at 8:48 am said:
    Alex is not COINTELPRO or a “plant.” For folks who have just woken up in the last several years and decided that “because of his style” he is a plan of the NWO or PTB, you need to do more research. Go back to the 1990′s when Alex first started on cable access TV in Austin TX. He said the same things back then as he says now! He openly urges people AGAINST violence and nothing I’ve heard him say has been substantially wrong and I’ve listened to him for years (after spotting that Glenn Beck was a fraud and not telling the “whole truth”).
    Is he bombastic? Yes. Does he exaggerate? Yes. Is he loud? Yes.